{"id":918,"date":"2020-09-16T14:58:48","date_gmt":"2020-09-16T14:58:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/?p=918"},"modified":"2020-11-27T21:08:42","modified_gmt":"2020-11-27T21:08:42","slug":"1940s-national-watch-cleaning-machine-repair","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/2020\/09\/1940s-national-watch-cleaning-machine-repair\/","title":{"rendered":"1940&#8217;s National watch cleaning machine repair"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was given this machine to repair &amp; restore &#8211; a National Electric watch cleaning machine Model 1 which dates from the 1940&#8217;s. It was in a very poor condition, rusty and all electrical parts visibly corroded and the original fabric insulation on the wiring had rotten.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_919\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-919\" style=\"width: 169px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-919 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203-169x300.jpg\" alt=\"National watch cleaning machine\" width=\"169\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203-169x300.jpg 169w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203-576x1024.jpg 576w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203-768x1365.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203-864x1536.jpg 864w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203-600x1067.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203-1040x1849.jpg 1040w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200830_203203.jpg 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 169px) 100vw, 169px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-919\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">National Watch Cleaning machine model 1<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This was a very dangerous machine even when new; they didn&#8217;t care much for electrical safety in them days! If you turned it over all the live wiring was accessible as was the rheostat which controlled the motor speed. Simply picking it up whilst plugged in could have resulted in an electric shock. Also the heating element, directly connected to the mains had a jar sat on top of it full of water which is splashed about with an impeller.<\/p>\n<p>I decided that in order to make this thing somewhat safer it would need to be re-wired and some sort of plate fastened over the base to cover the exposed live parts. However upon further inspection I deemed it too unsafe to even plug in so I didn&#8217;t bother testing it with power applied. I tested all the parts individually and found that the motor had burnt out with it visibly heavily water damaged and rusted, the power switch was open circuit even in both positions, the rheostat was visibly corroded and the heating element was busted. In short every component on it was faulty with nothing salvageable or repairable at all. It was questionable what I would be able to do with it given the lack of parts, tools and a decent work area as this had to be done on the kitchen worktop.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_920\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-920\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-920 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"The old motor from the watch cleaning machine with the new one fastened to the circular base\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947-1040x585.jpg 1040w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200903_163947.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-920\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Old motor (left) new motor (right)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Now this really is just scrap at this point as it couldn&#8217;t be any more broken but cost of a new machine was too prohibitive so I decided to replace it all with low voltage parts. The motor was sourced from a HP officejet 6500A which previously served as the carriage motor and despite it&#8217;s small size was quite powerful. The motor shaft was a non standard 3.4mm diameter so I had to purchase a 3mm to 6mm coupling and then bore out the 3mm hole to 3.4mm. This was done on a lathe to ensure it was exactly straight to avoid wobble. Next problem was that the impeller bore was not metric with it being some size between 6 and 7mm so a 6mm metal rod was used to fasten it to the coupling and sellotape to pack out the protruding end to the same size as the bore. This was then fixed in place with two grub screws 180 degrees apart so any small amounts of wobble could be adjusted.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_921\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-921\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-921 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"The old parts &amp; wiring removed\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609-1040x585.jpg 1040w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200909_142609.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-921\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The old and dangerous parts + wiring removed for disposal<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The replacement motor was small enough to fit inside the old motor casing once it had been gutted of the burnt out stator and windings. Some of the brush housings had to be grinded away with a dremel too. The motor was then fastened to the original plate so that any mounting brackets would be unnecessary.\u00a0 When it was tested there was a very small amount of wobble and vibration but after adjustment it was reduced to an acceptable level. To adjust speed I used a XL4016 based voltage regulator from Amazon to adjust the voltage between 2 and 11.5V and this was fastened to the front panel using a block of wood.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_922\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-922\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-922 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"The refurbished watch cleaner\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413-600x338.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413-1040x585.jpg 1040w, https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161413.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-922\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The refurbished watch cleaning machine showing the underside. Blue and brown wires are not at 240V potential. It was the only high current wire I had.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>With that problem taken care of all I needed to do was replace the switch and the element. I used a 80 degree 12V PTC heater plate again from Amazon fastened to a plastic plate that was then fitted on top of the existing ceramic insulator. This may not work very well as there isn&#8217;t much of the heater plate in contact with the jar base. Replacing the plastic plate with a steel or aluminium plate and mounting it upside down would be better. However rather than go to this expense, I will try it as-is and if it does not heat well I will change the plastic plate for metal. Finally the machine was powered from a standard 12V 5A CCTV power supply as the peak current is only 4 amps. This enables the power supply to be easily replaced in the event of it going faulty.<\/p>\n<p>The machine will be given back to its owner and if any further modifications are required I will update this article.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the finished item which is just waiting for a control knob to be fitted to the voltage regulator control pot.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_923\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-923\" style=\"width: 576px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161329.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-923 size-large\" title=\"National electric watch cleaning machine model 1 (repaired)\" src=\"https:\/\/www.adrian-smith31.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/IMG_20200914_161329-576x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"576\" height=\"1024\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-923\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">National electric watch cleaning machine model 1 (repaired)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was given this machine to repair &amp; restore &#8211; a National Electric watch cleaning machine Model 1 which dates from the 1940&#8217;s. 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